HOW TO RECOGNIZE PARMEKO,ALBION AND HADDON TRANSFORMERS ?

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HOW TO RECOGNIZE PARMEKO,ALBION AND HADDON TRANSFORMERS ?

Postby electricskychurch on Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:26 pm

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO DIFFERENTIATE THOSE PARMEKO, HADDON AND ALBION TRANSFORMERS ON AC30'S AND AC30TB'S, ANY INFOS ?
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Postby johnorth on Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:33 pm

Haddons are silver/gray with a little "Haddon" decal on the front of the transformer. Wodens can be either silver/gray or green enamel and are stamped with a "Woden" logo on the top of the tranformer (and choke). I believe that Parmekos, also silver/gray, have "Parmeko" written somewhere on the paper labels. Albions are silver/gray, but I don't think that the name "Albion" is written anywhere on them. When I'm looking at an AC30, if I can't identify them as anything else, I assume Albion. Also, some early AC30's have chokes, and possibly other transformers, by Radio Spares.
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Postby Nicolas on Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:44 pm

Albions looks like this:

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Postby johnorth on Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:56 pm

My mistake. I didn't think Albions were marked. I guess the ones I've seen have probably just lost their paper label.
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Postby Nicolas on Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:04 pm

No problem, John. I didn´t know either till I found this picture. I have a JMI AC-30, with the OH083(output) and OH114(Power) label only. No "Albions" written.
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Postby electricskychurch on Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:23 pm

thanks for your help.
i saw some black transformers in a 69' uk (erith kent) production AC30TB (gz34 and hand wired circuit), anybody knows what brand they could be ?
did they use only woden (silver ones ) in ac30's and tb's from mid 60's to late 60's ?
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Postby Alnico on Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:26 pm

I think this label is more common on Albions:
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Parmeko:
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Postby johnorth on Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:38 am

Alnico wrote:I think this label is more common on Albions:
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Parmeko:
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Right, those are the Albion and Parmeko labels I was picturing. Good to see I'm not losing my mind.
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Postby Albert EO301 on Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:51 am

Hi,

I believe original question is what is that transformer ?? :

Power tranny is hidden under shelve but if I'm not completely wrong it is same style as another one. This is 2nd this style VOX AC-30 I saw so it should not (?) be somebodys DIY stuff ?

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Postby keef on Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:57 am

I think that is one of the Italian made AC30s - these had one tranny under the chassis. No idea about the maker though.
Maybe there's a sticker underneath - look for the spaghetti logo.. :wink:
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Postby Blind Lemon Chitlin on Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:54 pm

Great thread Guys...... !!!! :D
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Postby Masco on Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:27 pm

Ok, so far we've been identifying end bells and not the transformers themselves. Just because there's an Albion sticker or Haddon decal on the bell doesn't necessarily mean you have that type underneath. I mean, unless you know the complete history of the amplifier or are the original owner, a lot can happen in 40+ years.
There are other traits that can identify a transformer, like the paper or wrapping over the windings, the leads, how the laminations are stacked and possibly stickers and/or writing on the wrapping material.
One trait I've seen on the Haddons - the lamination layers are offset every three layers close to the corners giving that kind of checkerboard appearance. [edit: this would be a trait of the OT]
It would be great if we could compile a bunch of photos and sort out all the different manufacturers.
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Postby Alnico on Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:28 pm

I can post photos of Woden, Albion and Parmeko transformers from various angles (except Parmeko OT). I'll edit this post later.

<edit>OK, here are some pics. The files aren't too big, but I'll replace them with links if enough people complain :twisted:

Woden PT
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Albion PT
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Parmeko PT
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Woden OT
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Albion OT
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Postby zen.state on Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:52 pm

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this one is in my TRAYNOR.....

with 2 el34's, :?
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Postby Blind Lemon Chitlin on Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:25 pm

Ahhhh so it is the Woden OP that has the 2 red wires on the primary side... This is good to know....altho I have an amp with a Woden that only uses one red wire on the primary section. I would like to ask the owner who posted the pic of the Woden OP to verify again that it is actually a Woden and approx. what year amp is it in. I have had one of these trannies ( unmarked ) for years not knowing which Vox contractor made them like this, or thinking it could have been a RS or some other replacement tranny.... Thanks for all the pics...this is a GREAT thread... !!!

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