1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby slider313 on Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:24 pm

There was also a limited run of Concerts in white tolex. These were reportedly a special order for Webb Music in 1962.

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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby transmaniacon on Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:05 pm

The Concert looks pinkest but it could be the lighting!
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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby drewleslie on Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:49 pm

transmaniacon wrote:The Concert looks pinkest but it could be the lighting!


Yep, the lighting different computer monitors etc ... I was showing the relative differences. When you see the term pink in reference to brown, they are in reference to the early '59-60 brown tolex that has a reddish hue through the brown. Lots of fender experimenting going on with early browns. drew
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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby slider313 on Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:30 pm

I believe the reason for the different shades of brown tolex was; there was a problem with oils from wood knots bleeding through, even on somewhat newer builds.
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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby Dean Jr. on Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:53 pm

The bleed through was prevalent on the blondes. I can't say I have ever seen it on the brown tolex...but I haven't seen everything. Here is my 1964 Ric B9A in near mint condition. There are bleed throughs in this silver. You can see the one on the right front rather plainly. There is even a long linear bleed through across the top from side to side.....

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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby drewleslie on Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:24 pm

Nice amp Dean Jr ... bleed thru was prevalent in the browns also. Check out topside of this 1960 Pro.

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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby Dean Jr. on Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:35 pm

thanks, Drew. IT is a little monster....single 6V6 with trem in a solid copper chassis pushing a C12Q!!
There it is...a brown amp with big freckles. That piece of pine has a lot of knots per square foot, right?
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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby drewleslie on Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:18 pm

Maybe one of the reasons Leo went to black tolex? But ya know, I sure like beat up old cabs and knot stains. drew
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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby Dean Jr. on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:39 pm

I suppose the tweeds didn't have this problem because there were no petro chemicals in that linen material to interact with the sap???
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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby centervolume on Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:35 am

Hi drew - been a while but my ears were burning ☺️

I used to be fired up about this issue but now gave in to the fact that people will call their amp whatever works for them. I still prefer to call the first tolex tan then the lighter shade from late 60 as cream then on to standard brown or chocolate brown. Pinkish brown has become a fad term good at helping inflate prices but poor at actually describing tolex color.

In other news I have stumbled dreaded amp number 13, mwhahhaha!! 00013 is a metal knob vibrasonic, and its wicked ! Will post images soon. As you were
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Re: 1960 Concert - interesting discovery and some advice

Postby drewleslie on Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:53 pm

Hi CV!!! I really enjoy the circuit variations and tolex variations of the 1960 browns. Very confusing for folks that haven't seen a few of them ... thats why I try to post a pic whenever the issue comes up. Cheers, drew.
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